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#98 Narconon 501C3

Posted by Homeward Bound on 08 August 2009 - 09:21 PM

Narconons are under IRS investigation for abuse of tax exempt status. It's just a matter of time for some. 'Personal inurement' means personal gain and Narconon Stone Hawk was busted for this. Co-owner Kate Wickstrom sued her ex husband, their company and and Narconon Int, which goes into details what was going on.


Hope this info is encouraging :)

Very interesting information! I suspect it is just the tip of the iceberg. Organized scientology really screwed up on the above. They pretty much had worked out every legal signifance possible to drain most of the money out of their front groups including Narconon. Guess they really sliped up leaving enough behind so that it could inure to private benefit. I guess David Miscavige has some more beatings to do on those responsible for this.

#941 Sheldon Solomon on Ernest Becker, Religious Belief and Self-Esteem

Posted by Alanzo on 15 January 2014 - 09:00 AM

This is an excellent 1 hour lecture on the work of Ernest Becker, an anthropologist who wrote about the anxiety of death in human beings across all cultures, and how that anxiety expresses itself in religious belief, violence, and the creation of culture itself.


Solomon then describes some of the scientific testing he has done of Becker's ideas, and some solutions he is working on to address these deep-seated issues in human beings.


There are technical difficulties in the first 2 minutes. Start two minutes in and give it 10 minutes.


You'll be hooked.


This is one of the most profound and enlightening lectures I have ever heard.


#192 Hubbard's Barley Water Formula For Babies Of Stupid Parents

Posted by add1x on 19 September 2009 - 10:27 AM

Hubbard introduced his infamous baby food recipe in The Auditor number 6 in an article ironically called "Healthy Babies".
Here are some article excerpts:
"Breast feeding babies may have a nostalgic background, particularly to a Freudian oriented medico, but real breast milk again is usually a poor ration"
Where is the published research study, Ron, that physicians who recommend breast feeding subscribe to Freud's doctrines? And where is the published research with a nutritional analysis of breast milk demonstrating that it is usually a poor ration? No facts? Flunk, Ron.

"Modern mothers smoke and sometimes drink. Smoking makes the milk very musty."
Which modern mothers smoke? Verifiable statistics please. And Ron, how would you know that smoking makes breast milk musty if you did not sample it yourself? How many lactating women did you taste test?

"Anyway, a nervous modern mother just can't deliver the right ration."
Published statistics please, Ron. Don't have any? You go to retread!

"The largest cause of upset in a baby's early life is just rations. As an old hand at this, I have straightened out more babies who were cross, not sleeping, getting sick and all, than it was easy to keep a record of."
No published research studies to demonstrate this, Ron? And you didn't keep any records of your own? Well, Old Hand Ron, psychologists John Bowlby and Mary Ainsworth did real scientific research which demonstrates otherwise: http://www.psycholog...nge_origins.pdf
It seems that insecure emotional attachment to the parents is the major factor. You are assigned to lower conditions, Ron.

"And (3) I recalled all my dietary and endocrine studies that I studied in those places the reporters have now agreed I never attended."
Like Sequoia University?

"Actually I recalled further than that. Roman troops marched on barley."
Great "whole track recall" Ron! But, historical records indicate otherwise. It seems the Roman Legion mostly consumed foods other than barley.

"Barley is the highest protein cereal."
Thanks for authoritative advice, Ron, but scientific research demonstrates otherwise, again:

Of all the cereal grains, oats ranks highest in protein and runs neck and neck with wheat as the all-around most nutritive cereal grain. The 1950 USDA handbook on grains rates oats at 14.5 percent protein, while whole wheat runs second with 13.4 percent. These figures are somewhat outdated now, especially in regard to oats. The average of 287 varieties selected from the World Oat Collection recently averaged 17 percent in protein content. More significantly, two new varieties, DAL from Wisconsin and OTEE from Illinois, contain over two percent more protein than that average, and can go as high as 22 percent on a dry basis. That could make oats almost competitive with soybeans in protein (soybeans contain about 35 percent protein but yield less per acre than oats) and most plant scientists express belief in a bright future for oats as human food.
Part of their reasoning is based on the character as well as the quality of oat protein. It has a bland taste, is soluble under acidic conditions, is stable in emulsions with water and fat, and holds moisture, thus making it an ideal protein to supplement other foods. At the USDA laboratory in Peoria, Illinois, researchers are using oat protein to make nutritious refreshment beverages, meat extenders, and high-protein baked goods.

"This formula is the nearest approach to human milk that can be assembled easily. It is an old Roman formula, no less, from maybe 2,200 years ago."
Oh, ya, Ron? It seems that there is no historical record of the barley water, homogenized milk, corn syrup formula. In fact, historical records indicate that Roman women either breast fed or employed wet nurses who did:
And corn syrup was invented around 1882:

So, Ron, you nuclear physicist you, it seems you invented your baby food recipe out of your own delusions and conman lies. Thanks. Now we know.

Reading this crap soooo many years later - I could immediately see some of the contradictions - such as the use/invention of cornsyrup being way too late on the chain.

It still amazes me what wasn't seen (by self) and still isn't seen and is explained away so easily by scientologists. I didn't even see the "outpoint" of corn syrup then, and if I had I am sure would have explained it away by something along the lines of "well, we call it corn syrup now, but it was same thing just not called that..."

Thankfully, my children were breastfed by a rebel-scientology mother.

#195 Hubbard's Barley Water Formula For Babies Of Stupid Parents

Posted by lamb on 20 September 2009 - 10:35 AM

So, with that knowledge in mind, could future lawsuits be forthcoming against CO$? After all, we were duped into harming our own children!

#204 Hubbard's Barley Water Formula For Babies Of Stupid Parents

Posted by Homeward Bound on 26 September 2009 - 12:40 PM

And to think I used the formula blindly on my two children! There are so many things to regret once you break through the veil of mind control and actually see what you've swallowed whole!

I can't help but have a similar feeling here.

I had a daughter born in the Sea Org and after a time we put her on that insane barley formula because it was LRH who recommended it. I feel completely betrayed and like a fool that I did this and can only hope that it has no lasting negative effects in my daughter.

Some years later I consented to having my daughter do the purif rundown. Again, because I blindly believed in Hubbard's "brilliance", I risked harm to the person I loved the most.

It sickens me to realize now that Hubbard was not only incompetent in these areas but he also was a fraud, pretending great knowledge that he did not have.

His constant lies about his accomplishments, his education, his war record, and his life in general serve to paint a false picture of one who cares more about his own "status", money, etc. than he does others. It is a huge betrayal of the trust we all put in him on these subjects and many more I am sure.

He preached often of what a wonderful man he was who took no money for his work for organized scientology, while through back channels tens of millions of dollars was secretly funneled to him for what amounts to little or no exchange of value. And countless people were beaten, gang bang sec checked, extorted, threatened with loss of family and otherwise abused so as to get money to this man.

How sick is this!

I believe that it is incumbent on those of us who know of such things as the above, to speak out and do something to help prevent these abuses and dangerous practices from being used on others, this time to line the pockets or otherwise the "power-base" of David Miscavige.

#887 Interview on the role of corporate psychopaths in the global financial collapse

Posted by LFBD Pittsburgh on 30 March 2013 - 02:58 PM

You always have done nice clean interviews, clear questions, and your guests have really been informative.

I've learned a lot from your interviews and will continue to re-listen to my favorites.

One would have thought that community college radio would allow locals like you to continue providing shows for your local community.

You had a boatload of excellent guests!

Thanks Tom!

Chuck Beatty
in Pittsburgh

#886 Interview on scientology and narconon with former narconon executive

Posted by LFBD Pittsburgh on 30 March 2013 - 01:58 PM

I would have loved to know from Lucas, how Narconon Arrowhead's staff command chart functioned.

For instance, was there a Narconon Arrowhead "Banking Officer" who followed the Hubbard green volumes "FBO" or "Finance Officer" policies, because I'd be very interested in knowing what the weekly "allotment" form was that the "FBO" officer used, which lists the cut of money that must be funneled upwards to ABLE.

Because my guess is that the actual allocation and allotment of money that internally Narconon Arrowhead, followed Scientology church percentages. Not that this is illegal, but it shows to what degree, from small details of how the Narconon program was implemented (following to the letter Hubbard church procedures), to the degree internally, as a whole organization, the Narconon Arrowhead follows the internal policies straight out of the green volumes (the Hubbard Scientology church internal staff regulations).

Lucas should be interviewed in detail, by ALL serious academic researchers who are professing to do serious research into Narconon.

Chuck Beatty
in Pittsburgh

#885 Interview on research of cognition versus empathy

Posted by LFBD Pittsburgh on 30 March 2013 - 01:27 PM

What an informative excellent interview Tom!

I'm amazed at your questions, and so are your guests, who get provoked into giving such excellent informative answers.

I've always loved your interviewing Tom.

This interview deserves to be re listened to about 4 times, there are so much interesting material here..

Thanks Tom!

Chuck Beatty
in Pittsburgh

#872 The Edge interview on the suspicious death of Kyle Brennan

Posted by LFBD Pittsburgh on 23 December 2012 - 05:49 PM

The KR that Jerry Gentile (Denise's husband) wrote, sounds fishy to me, and my first educated guess was that the KR was a compiled KR from info that OSA Clearwater, likely Peter Mansell, gathered and re-wrote in the name of Jerry.

It's a scrubbed and highly clinical detailed KR, sounds unbelievably like something only OSA Legal people write, it is totally has the "time, place, form, event" and reads like an OSA timetrack writeup.

The KR is available to be read, it's circulating, I saw a copy of it.

I cannot believe, it was written by Jerry, unless he was fed back the exact details for which he then typed up the KR.

Because it is a crafted KR, my opinion, it deflects legal judgements about this KR. Because it is written by Jerry Gentile, it to me should be focused on,and Jerry Gentile if a good lawyer was properly coached, could get Jerry to sputter a LOT of inconsistent answers, if Jerry were asked in detail questions about his KR (not his, my opinion), and because it's so very likely NOT his KR, he could be "tripped up".

In real life, behind the scenes, Denise Gentile also likely wrote a KR, to OSA Clearwater or to OSA Int, and her KR ought be have put into the evidence.

Tom Brennan also would have likely been ordered to "write up" what he experienced, and Tom's "KR" ought be also have been put into the evidence.

Why Jerry Gentile addressed the KR to OSA Int person(s) is also highly suggestive that he was either told to write that KR.

Why Jerry even so closedly surveiled the Policeman who was on the scene, and Jerry was recording the questions, that perfectly, with the answers, is just more like a KR that OSA Clearwater wrote and submitted to RTC, since this case is ALL about Denise Gentile's fucked up student pseudo-therapist messed up "auditing" (Hubbard pseudo-therapy) because Tom Brennan was Denise's 'student preclear"!!!

This case is all about slick coverup, by Scientology OSA, to keep Denise's negligence, out of the story, minimally.

Denise was on the phone pleading with Victoria, the Sunday before Kyle's death (5 days later on Friday), asking Victoria to help urge Kyle go to Narconon!!!!

Other evidence in the case is the Flag Service Org Master At Arms' Handling Program written that Tom was required to execute, to handle Tom's situation with Kyle being on psych drugs and under psych care, in order that Denise, Tom's student auditor, could continue to take Tom in session.

Denise was doing her Academy Levels student auditng on Tom, and that auditing was stopped, because Tom needed to first handle Ky'e's being on psych drugs.

Kyle was Tom's problem, because of Scientology's rules.

Denise couldn't audit Tom, until Tom finished his "Handling Program" with Kyle's psych drug use being the KEY most important first step, a step that's been deemed priest penitent and blocked out, in the Scientology submited self admitted evidence, Scientology admits the FSO MAA wrote Tom Brennan a handling program, to deal with Kyle.

We who know what the details of this programs MUST have contained, because we know the Hubbard "scriptures" (think cult rules system rules for "scriptures"), we know Denise couldn't audit her guinea pig student preclear (patient), Tom, until Tom was free of his family situation with his son engaging in a suppressive activity, namely taking psych drugs.

It's so messy, when a cult leader, Hubbard, makes his prejudices into "church" policy, and church followers tie themselves in knots and pressure themselves into inhumane reactions on their non Scientology family members, in supreme ignorance, and tragedies are directly and indirectly caused.

Our legal system is just incapable of understanding this.

Scientology's actual "Handling Program" the full version, was apparantly initially viewed by the original judge on the first case, and that judge could NOT have understood the full implication, I know, and I wish I could have been in Ken Dandar's brain, to help him, to submit to that judge, who was allowed to read the Flag Service Org Master At Arm's "Handling Program" for Tom Brennan, because in that Handling Program would be the information to connect the dots.

Denise was pressuring Tom to complete the "Handling Program". She was Tom's student therapist, like a student barbar, and her patient, Tom, was the student barber's customer. Denise was just trying to make sure Tom came out okay, within the Hubbard rules, and Tom was cooperative, since Denise is a big wheel name, she's the twin sister of David Miscavige, and it's pretty unthinkable NOT to follow any orders from her, and Tom was her employee in addition to being Denise's guinea pig student therapy patient!!

And the Flag Service Org Master a Arms, makes the Flag Service Org directly connected to this death, since Tom was the one negligent or worse, in Kyle's death!

That's just the fact, too bad our legal system didn't get this, at least not yet.

thankyou Lawyer Luke for taking on this case!

despite the "loss" in the courts, the world absolutely knows Scientology's Hubbard, is really the guy who wrote this Scientology cult rules script of anti psychiatry prejudice, that played out, via the "Handling Program" which so obviously directly preceded Tom Brennan's behavior with Kyle, directly leading up to Kyle's death!

The lawyers on this case, were right to pursue it.

Hubbard is the guilty party, in world history, and his followers are the guilty parties, in acting in ways to deny psychiatric care.

Hubbard's exorcism, is the Scientology alternative, to psychiatry.

Hubbard believed that human beings' deepest irrationality stems from mental implanting, which we all received in past lives, and additionally, we are all infested with clusters of dead souls that co-habit our bodies and these surplus souls, "body thetans", are all to varying degrees leaking the mentally debilitating past lives implants out of their soul minds into our mind. Hubbard's solution, ultimately, is to rid a person of these surplus hitchhiking "body thetans" that infest each of us, and when the souls are fully exorcised (it takes 5 of the 8 secret OT levels of Scientology to complete the exorcism in full), then we are finally fully mentally well and spiritually back in good shape.

Hubbard's rules would have pushed Tom to get Kyle off psych handlings, but the Hubbard Scientology fraudulent pseudo-therapy/exorcism rules tragically include a rule saying people who have had psychiatric drugs and care cannot DO Hubbard's pseudo-therapy/exorcism.

Hubbard's practice is wrong in all directions, and Hubbard is what infected Tom Brennan's head, and infected Denise Brennan's head, and infected the Flag Service Org Master At Arms' head, and infected the Clearwater OSA meister Peter Mansell's head, so they cannot see how they caused Kyle's death.

That was a cult does, that's what a cult leader like Hubbard causes the world.

It will be a long battle undoing Scientology's/Hubbard's prejudices.

#826 The Edge interview on patient deaths in Narconon

Posted by LFBD Pittsburgh on 25 August 2012 - 04:09 PM

Great interview as usual Tom.

This is a great summary of the reasons Narconon should be shut down immediately.

The lies Hubbard told about which of his ideas were secular and which were religious are brought to the fore by this interview.

The whole Narconon program is Hubbard's ideas used in the Scientology faux religion.

Either Hubbard has a huge misunderstanding about religion, or he's lying, or both.

Just because Hubbard wrote his rules, his followers, including the Narconon staff, are stuck implementing Hubbard's lying and Hubbard's misunderstandings on the world.

It's a huge mess what all Hubbard has stuck his followers with implementing.

#809 U.N. Affirms Internet Freedom as a Basic Right

Posted by Alanzo on 06 July 2012 - 06:54 PM

They also used to pretend that they supported "The Creed of the Church of Scientology".

While they were recruiting you, at least.

#787 Personal Attacks And Vulgarity From The Owner Of Esmb

Posted by Alanzo on 19 June 2012 - 10:36 AM

What is her Ozzie Pozzie? Do you mean a posse of Aussies? Poor girl has had an axe to grind with those who disagree with her for a few years anyway. Perhaps a carryover trait of her stint in scientology.

Yes, her posse of Aussies. All these people are trying to make sense of their lives after Scientology, and I believe that it is easy for people like Rinder and others to manipulate them. It is just as Hubbard wrote in 1955:

"The purpose of the suit is to harass and discourage rather than to win. The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, well knowing that he is not authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause his professional decease. If possible, of course, ruin him utterly."


#785 Personal Attacks And Vulgarity From The Owner Of Esmb

Posted by Alanzo on 19 June 2012 - 09:20 AM

I'm not saying that we should all just get along (RIP Rodney King), but I am saying that the cult benefits greatly in the rotten fruit of Emma's Jihad.

#783 Personal Attacks And Vulgarity From The Owner Of Esmb

Posted by Alanzo on 19 June 2012 - 09:14 AM

I don't know.

I think OSA and Rinder both have been doing their best to infiltrate ESMB and "handle" it. Her arrest was definitely arranged by OSA because they had the evidence to give to the police, and the police were interested in anyone who might be a member of "Anonymous". It was disgusting what OSA did to Emma, and the disruption to her life, property and her family.

It was during this vulnerable time for Emma that she began to seek advice from Mike Rinder in his position as being "out" of the Church of Scientology.

If anyone has an admin dictionary, look up the definition of "False Flag Operation". It's in there. And during the sting of Gerry Armstrong in the early 80's, there is a video of Rinder running a false flag operation on Gerry in Griffith Park.

Scientologists WILL dramatize Scientology. And that part of the admin tech is most definitely part of Rinder's hat.

I'm not saying that I KNOW anything here. Any hypothesis can be arranged any way you want to fit any evidence you choose - or leave out.

​For anyone who is unfamiliar with the documentation on Mike Rinder's history of running False Flag Operations on critics, go to this link and see it for yourself:


(Note: the videos have been moved to youtube from that page. The videos can be found here: http://www.youtube.c...3744476D9B3C7B2 )

See any similarities?

I'm not saying that I KNOW anything about Mike Rinder's true present status as a Church of Scientology staff member.

What I am saying is that I would never, ever trust Mike Rinder to give me any "advice" ever.

That is for sure.

NOTE: Can't find the entry in the admin dictionary about False Flag Operation. My memory may not be so hot on this after 12 years of being out. It may be in the Data Series. Does anyone have the Data Series to look for this?

#780 Important Course on Critical Thinking for Anyone Who Ever Called Themselves a...

Posted by Alanzo on 18 June 2012 - 05:51 PM

Hubbard taught Scientologists from his very first book that the human mind, if freed from all "aberration" would work perfectly.

This assumption underlies the whole of the subjects of Dianetics and Scientology.

This assumption, beyond any shade of doubt, has been proven completely false.

The Teaching Company sells recorded lectures by university professors which have a popular appeal to a wide audience. Some of them are really excellent and can be life changing. This course has been for me.


It is taught By Professor Steven Novella, M.D., Georgetown University, Yale School of Medicine, and it is kicking my ass.

I've read many books on critical thinking, but always in the context of logic, logical fallacies, etc. This course begins by showing you how flawed human perceptions, memory and thinking are, using well established experiments which show their flaws. Then, from within that context, it starts to teach you critical thinking skills.

Anyone who has ever been a Scientologist would benefit from this course.