The Ex-Scientologist Forum: Continental Office East U.s. written by revenimus

Based on my experiences, here is who has been off-loaded, sent to the Rehabilitation Project Force or routed out "standardly" from the Continental Office Eastern United States as of July 2009.

Billy Lindstein -- C/O CLO-EUS
Philipe Dube -- Commodore's Messenger Org
John Franzack -- V/M Cavalcade I/C
Carlos "Cookie" Menrique -- Organization Chef
Diana Runyon -- Daughter of Sharyn and William Runyon. Declared.
Abigail Wertz -- C/O IHELP EUS
Alex Cocco -- Sent to FLAG Land Base in 2008
Quentin Strub -- C/O WISE EUS. Rehabilitation Project Force 2008-2009 is now back.
Bryan Jasper -- Routing Out Standardly
Toni Chambranis -- In Los Angeles now / Was D/CO OSA EUS
Beverley "Bev" McPhee -- ABLE EUS. Unknown but has not been at CLO-EUS for some time
Ann "Toni" Lenarcic -- Finance Terminal / Blew in Los Angeles circa 2008

revenimus, on 27 July 2009 - 06:44 PM, said:

Gawd I remember Quentin Strub being over WISE East US almost two decades ago.

What a losing proposition it was really as WISE did not have much to offer many of the public scientologists but instead tried so hard to force people into becoming members.

This was done by threatening them that if they did not join WISE they would be reported not only to their local orgs but in effect blacklisted. Being reported to local orgs usually meant costly ethics handlings. Being "blacklisted" often meant WISE circulating the person's name to the WISE membership letting them know he/she was out-ethics and no one should do business with them.

What an awful way to try to run such a group. More like the mafia than some benevolent non profit group trying to help.

The whole concept of WISE was born out of distrust of the scientology public, a consideration that they were generally criminals and that ethics had to be put in on them. That carried forward into the operation of WISE well after it launched. That paranoia combined with a greed to get more of the publics' money is so much like what is behind the rest of organized scientology despite their hiding their true intentions behind benevolent-sounding religious cloaking and corporate veils.

Perhaps the saddest part of all this is that I believe most of the staff were really trying to do good but were deceived.

The activities that you describe with WISE Homeward are called racketeering. Strub was nasty to anyone who did not join WISE and conducted himself like a Nazi Gaumeister. However, the idea behind WISE goes back to Hubbard and his "World Out of Comm" evaluation done in 1978. This evaluation led to all the front groups in scientology which we see today, excepting CCHR and Narconon/Criminon which were already in existence at that time. The same man who enforced his false and discredited notions on his followers really thought that he knew what was wrong with everybody else and the world at large.
The consequences of that evaluation were the last piece of major administrative lunacy Hubbard had an opportunity to create.
Rather than just create baggage for his followers, Hubbard determined to create it for the world.
It is time to dispose of all this baggage and ensure that Mankind is wise enough not to accept it.

Rhythm, on 30 July 2009 - 02:30 AM, said:

Agreed on the racketeering part.

I am sure that lots started with "World out of Comm" but many groups, including WISE, had other reasons for being formed. Hubbard ran missions by telex to set up the very first WISE corporation in Liechtenstein (which was later not used) to get the businesses under control, get their "ethics in", get money from them and especially get them off org lines (not hiring org staff, stop using org mail lists, etc.).

Plus the GO ran a variety of front groups besides Narconon and CCHR before then including many of the education groups, the "Committee on Public Health and Safety". Oh man there were some other classics they promoted which you almost never hear of now including "National Commission on Law Enforcement and Social Justice", "Task force on Alcoholism", "Tast Force on Mental Retardation", "New Life for Senior Citizens" LOL There also were the volunteer ministers back then, all predating 1978.

The "church" has been creative for many decades in the use of front groups with names that sound so altruistic but that are self serving to give them a cloak of decency and/or to put controls into areas and make money from it.

Some "front groups" were for single hidden purposes such as "the Safe Environment Fund" set up by the GO to secretly get money to defend those being criminally prosecuted after the FBI raids in 1977. Other "specialty front groups" included SLDLC and UCF to try to sneak Flag into Florida without anyone knowing it was organized scientology. ("SLDLC" = Southern Land Development and Leasing Corporation". "UCF" = United Churches of Florida).

Organized scientology history is loaded with front groups with the intentions to hide the truth, control others, covertly make money and the like.

Homeward Bound, on 30 July 2009 - 10:46 AM, said:

I was aware of the ad hoc throwaway front groups like UCF, SLDLC, and the fraudulent SEF, but forgot about the NCLESJ, which faded away when the GO did. The other ones you mentioned I had never heard of before.

Rhythm, on 30 July 2009 - 04:39 PM, said:

Yep those other "groups" were used by the GO back then to try to make organized scientology look good.

They were mentioned in the very first "What is Scientology" book which was written mainly by GO members in 1978. It was in response to the 1977 FBI raids in the US. There were also other books written by the GO then including "exposing the FBI" kind of books, again in response to the FBI raids (attack the attacker and all that).

Check out the following link to the cover and first few pages of that first "What is Scientology" book in 78 and notice all the GO folks who contributed to writing it. Again, it was in there that the front groups I mentioned where written about. It was total bull but it was in there to give that "religious cloak of decency" look:

http://www.ingo-hein...8-Impressum.pdf

What they do now is just a lot more of the same as we covered earlier on this thread.