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#43 St Petersburg Times - Strength In Numbers

Posted by AnonyMary on 02 August 2009 - 03:14 PM

Four more brave people have come forward speaking out against the organized criminal cult of Scientology and a few others were interviewed without video. Startling revelations from people who have, in some cases been out of the cult for twenty years.


Kudos to those who spoke up!

The video interviews in this series are very good to watch:





here's a link to the first series:

Mary McConnell

#290 David Miscavige And Organized Scientology - My New Ebook

Posted by Homeward Bound on 22 November 2009 - 05:48 PM

I would like to announce the release of my first “ebook”.

The cover of the ebook is not yet ready but I wanted to release it now anyway as it may be of value to important current happenings such as what is going on with Senator Zenophone in Australia.

The ebook, or call it “paper”, can be found at the following link:


And, you may soon be able to download it at:


The work is free of charge and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution License 3.0 http://creativecommo...nses/by/3.0/us/

This means anyone is free to copy, distribute and transmit the work and to adapt the work but you need to attribute what you do back to this original work.

The title of the work is:

- The Collected Works of L. H. Brennan – Volume 1”

It is subtitled:

“The Miscavige Legal Statements: A Study in Perjury, Lies and Misdirection”
Written by Larry Brennan
[Edited and Compiled by Anonymous w/<3]

I would like to give my heartfelt thanks and love to Anonymous for the incredible help in putting this together.

As the name implies, it is based on a series of my works indexed at my blog: larrybren.blogspot.com

It contains first hand information on the subject. My involvement and background within organized scientology is detailed near the end of the ebook in an attempt to show that this information is both first hand and credible (as much of this is going to be denied by David Miscavige and those who speak for him).

We are entering a time now where the abuses of David Miscavige and the organized scientology he controls are being brought into the light and are now being addressed both by governments and civil litigants. To the extent that this information may be of help in exposing and stopping the abuses it is offered freely for their use.

Should any of the readers here wish to get this report to the likes of Senator Zenophone, for example, you have my blessing.

I know this will not be an easy read for many but it is offered here in the hopes that it can be used to help governments, civil litigants, writers and others point out and stop abuses.

Here is to love and to great justice.

Larry Brennan

#151 Literacy Improves Without Study Tech

Posted by Rhythm on 28 August 2009 - 02:04 PM

From a recent study at Stanford University, it seems that literacy has improved without Hubbard's plagiarized and perverted "Study Tech".
What factor has helped these students excel? Scientology's bane. The institution that David Miscavige and his brainwashed entourage said was "run by criminals".
I am referring to the internet, that communications medium which organized scientology regards as an "external influence", "entheta" and "evil". You see, captive scientologists believe that you can only improve your ability to communicate by doing robotic staring and speaking drills or following instructions from a scientology counsellor in an auditing session.
Granted, knowing the definitions of the words you write, read, speak or hear are necessary to be fluent in a language. (What are dictionaries for and why have they been around for hundreds of years?) Didn't Virginia Waddy document that in her 1889 book, Elements of Composition and Rhetoric in chapter 8? The finding that the very act of communicating can improve one's ability to communicate will probably be dismissed by captive scientologists as "psych influenced" or "false data". Nevertheless, it is fact.
Sorry, Ron. Today we will not clap and cheer to your picture. Instead, we applaud the fine research that Andrea Lunsford, professor of writing and rhetoric at Stanford University, is facilitating in the area of student literacy.

#826 The Edge interview on patient deaths in Narconon

Posted by LFBD Pittsburgh on 25 August 2012 - 04:09 PM

Great interview as usual Tom.

This is a great summary of the reasons Narconon should be shut down immediately.

The lies Hubbard told about which of his ideas were secular and which were religious are brought to the fore by this interview.

The whole Narconon program is Hubbard's ideas used in the Scientology faux religion.

Either Hubbard has a huge misunderstanding about religion, or he's lying, or both.

Just because Hubbard wrote his rules, his followers, including the Narconon staff, are stuck implementing Hubbard's lying and Hubbard's misunderstandings on the world.

It's a huge mess what all Hubbard has stuck his followers with implementing.

#787 Personal Attacks And Vulgarity From The Owner Of Esmb

Posted by Alanzo on 19 June 2012 - 10:36 AM

What is her Ozzie Pozzie? Do you mean a posse of Aussies? Poor girl has had an axe to grind with those who disagree with her for a few years anyway. Perhaps a carryover trait of her stint in scientology.

Yes, her posse of Aussies. All these people are trying to make sense of their lives after Scientology, and I believe that it is easy for people like Rinder and others to manipulate them. It is just as Hubbard wrote in 1955:

"The purpose of the suit is to harass and discourage rather than to win. The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, well knowing that he is not authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause his professional decease. If possible, of course, ruin him utterly."


#780 Important Course on Critical Thinking for Anyone Who Ever Called Themselves a...

Posted by Alanzo on 18 June 2012 - 05:51 PM

Hubbard taught Scientologists from his very first book that the human mind, if freed from all "aberration" would work perfectly.

This assumption underlies the whole of the subjects of Dianetics and Scientology.

This assumption, beyond any shade of doubt, has been proven completely false.

The Teaching Company sells recorded lectures by university professors which have a popular appeal to a wide audience. Some of them are really excellent and can be life changing. This course has been for me.


It is taught By Professor Steven Novella, M.D., Georgetown University, Yale School of Medicine, and it is kicking my ass.

I've read many books on critical thinking, but always in the context of logic, logical fallacies, etc. This course begins by showing you how flawed human perceptions, memory and thinking are, using well established experiments which show their flaws. Then, from within that context, it starts to teach you critical thinking skills.

Anyone who has ever been a Scientologist would benefit from this course.

#771 Interview with former scientology executive director Bill Franks

Posted by LFBD Pittsburgh on 11 June 2012 - 07:57 AM

On the Mary Sue (Hubbard's last and most long term faithful wife, totally dedicated to him) issue, this is a huge piece of Hubbard's heartlessness. I think if ALL of the people's memories of those tumultuous times when LRH was most worried about being brought down, and HOW LRH is the one who doubted Mary Sue's "doing the right thing" and taking the fall for him, when both she and he knew that he was absolutely culpable for the Guardian's Office's misdeeds which the US Justice Dept correctly "letter of the law" nailed with total firmness, this interview with Bill's info and him giving more of the context shows to me even MORE, why it is so fricking important to someday get the Jimmy Mulligans, and the Jane Kembers, and the still alive ex GO biggies to add publicly their views.

If Lawrence Wright is even taking note of my comments, my BIG suggestion to the serious writers, and Lawrence is the ONLY world outside writer at this point in history in the game of even getting to this VERY important historical moment, there is this torturous psychological game that goes on, when a Scientologist "turns" against LRH.

And this moment, I believe it is true, that Mary Sue did NOT want to turn on LRH, but that she also was somewhat wishing to still be a part of his life, and I believe, it is written in Janet's book, Mary Sue did have a final meal with LRH out at Bonnie View, the old Bonnie View, at the Int Base.

But the moment of realizing that LRH and the movement needs you to "take the fall" (and Bill's seeing this as something on the horizon for himself as well), this moment and period for Mary Sue, must have been absolutely a mind ripping moment psychologically.

She knew LRH ordered and wrote ALL of the Guardian's Office most illegal tactics and overall policy. The Simon Bolivar policy is all about the fundamental theoretical basis for how to protect LRH. Mary Sue was absolutely guided by the Manuela failings which LRH brings up in the Simon Bolivar policy.

I truly think Bill is the best senior ex member to get his wits around the movement, and absolutely, NO writer has yet tapped into the psychological collapse that will occur in the senior ex member's minds, when they see the big guns of penalties being turned and aimed at themselves, and they see Hubbard is the one at the control switch.

I imagine also, that the GO and Miscavige did NOT wish Bill to be revealing what he was doing against her, and relaying to her, in all her final years, since she died in 2002 I believe, but I would like to know if Bill had chance to talk EVER with Mary Sue.

I so wish that one of the major burned execs of all time, Bill Franks, had chance to swap stories with other burned executives, and fill in history on their different sides of the turmoil, back in those moments when those major players were actually pitted against each other, back when those on the inside were "just following LRH's orders and principles".

This truly, Tom, this interview has some truly important seeds of just how senior members of the movement go through their mental collapse of support for the Hubbard movement and system.

You're doing future serious researchers of Scientology a priceless historical service, Tom.

It takes a good deal of literacy to even come up to describing the turmoil one is put through, when one's playing the high positions in the Scientology movement, and Bill's the best, in my opinion, very clear.

Jeff Hawkins did pretty good on his story.

So much to discuss on this.

anyone want to talk to me after hours, call me after 9pm east coast time on the phone, and let's chat.

Bill Franks, I hope to hell you have a nice long life, and spend a tiny amount more time allowing more interviewing. I'd love to know to what lengths in general Scientology has kept the whole long train of ex senior members from conversing and comparing stories, with each other. There is a hell of a lof of important history that's been damped out of existence by somehow distancing the ex senior leaders from talking with each other and putting the twos and twos together!

To say Scientology is a mind control group, well Bill's comments about Margaret Singer's comments about Scientology being, at this point in it's history (since in 50 years, who knows that will be left), being the worst of the mind control authoritarian totalist groups, this interview is just overwhelming evidence.

Thanks Tom.

Jackpot, I fell like I just won a huge chunk of excellent history revealed.

Thankyou Bill Franks!

#707 Interview with Dr. Arthur Deikman on cults and cult thinking

Posted by LFBD Pittsburgh on 15 January 2012 - 06:09 PM

Also, you told me, and listeners should realize that Dr. Deikman suffers from Parkinson's and is elderly, so respectfully take that into account when listening to this interview.

Point by point, I can't argue against anything I learned listening to this interview.

Great job!

#670 Interview on Forgiveness Therapy with Dr. Jim Dincalci

Posted by LFBD Pittsburgh on 29 October 2011 - 05:39 PM

Another excellent interview!

Jim's forgiveness site, years ago, someone told me about it, and it really helped me, just read what he wrote, I used it, and for sure, I'm a thankful recipient of the simplest of his focused ideas about forgiveness.

It's something one does for oneself, and one just forgives people, and it helps the person who forgives, and you don't even have to tell the other person that you forgave them! That's so simple, and so helpful.

It's like having one's own "solo session" and one concludes one doesn't have to blame someone else anymore!

Also Tom, hunting down the linguistic relativity subject, that too leads to some powerful ideas about how words influence people.

And the forgiveness word/concept, is just a perfect example of how words can have an emotional and mental effect.

I liked that Jim's done so much brain chemistry study, and his discussion of cortisol, and how thought changes the cortisol levels immediately!

Amazing interview!

Thanks so much Tom!


#669 Interview on Forgiveness Therapy with Dr. Jim Dincalci

Posted by Rhythm on 28 October 2011 - 12:51 PM

Jim is the former medical officer to L. Ron Hubbard and left scientology many years ago.
He is now a counseling psychologist who teaches and practices Forgiveness Therapy.
This therapy could help in the recovery of former scientologists.

#65 Ned For Ots -- Nots

Posted by Robbo on 05 August 2009 - 10:43 AM

I thought I would tell you my think on NOTs; what I think now. This first post doesn't cover it all and it's off the cuff, so feel free to ask Qs.

At Flag, in the R/S RPF, we were required to co-audit the NED and XDN programs to graduate. Both were suddenly suspended, which on the side was a bit shocking because we then had no way of graduating. The whole tech of "checking ownership" came out, as well as an explanation for the "failure" of Dianetics and XDN, that was, jumping chains and confusing "whose charge" was being addressed, etc.

NOTs was originally thought of as "The Misconception Runddown" but "New Era Dianetics for OTs" (NOTs) was chosen for the marketing value. OTs (Clear and above) couldn't do NED to handle PSEAs, but NOTs surely could -- kinda think.

OT III was suppose to handle all a PreOT's BTs and CLs that were aware enough to be run through INC II and INC I to a blow. Being done with OT III was just an apparency. The rest of the case were apparently below a PreOTs awareness. That's the one NOTs addresses.

To understand the theory behind the process, one needs to understand Hubbard's "Axioms" and "Factors".

The theory is, a Thetan can be anything, but if it is unwittingly being "something" other than its true self, it's out of valence. As Hubbard describes it, the thetan is reliving a past experience that is more real than present time (reviv). You can imagine the lies, or, "misconceptions" for that being.

I'll tell you an amusing story... I was auditing this PreOT on the NOTs DRG RD and this Cluster was being the "Three Dog Night" song..."You keep me hanging on..." and sure enough.

Anyway, the NOTs process, first asks this BT "What are you?"... and that's suppose to get it to become a bit objective to it's condition and realize what it's being, like, "A muscle" (as an answer). Then you run "Who are you?" until that BT cognites, "I'm me!" (first person singular) and blows.

The original EP of the whole R/D is the PreOT can put his/her attention on any part of their body and immediate space to some distance, and it's clear and transparent. In essence, there's no BT in your space or body that is mocking anything up.


#36 How The Freezone Is Like Wow Free Server

Posted by Robbo on 01 August 2009 - 11:33 AM

I agree, the Freezone doesn't even have the standard technology they "claim" they do. I have heard all sorts of fantastical claims by Freezoners, largely people like Terril Park who claim the FZ has all the upper-level materials. Completely non-sensical if you ask me. One thing I know the Freezone doesn't have is the Golden Age of Knowledge changes to the e-meter drills/instructions. The original documentation for the e-meter as well as a LOT of processes were never written by LRH but were compiled by others FOR him or from his lectures. The changes to the metering drills and things like that with GAK was the one valid thing they DID change that wasn't squirrel and the Freezone DOESNT HAVE IT.

All Scientologists get indoctrinated into "Standard Tech". Think about this -- consistently violating the auditor's code IS NOT Standard Tech. Cookie-Cutter programs, like the lower levels, instead of auditing the PC in front of you, IS NOT Standard Tech. Addressing "case" that really isn't there IS NOT Standard Tech. I could go on.

Just like "Get on the Bridge at your own risk" is true if you get on it via Organized Scientology, it's also true in the FZ.

That being said, I would suggest, wherever you go to get auditing, if that's what you want to do, YOU make sure you are interested in what's addressed. DO NOT receive any service you aren't interested in. Don't accept another Scientologist's opinion about what services you need -- make up your own mind. Don't be sold or PRd to become convinced.

Under any circumstances, DO NOT do "The Upper Levels". They don't really exist as Hubbard wrote them up and any "HCOB" written by any one since Hubbard's death, is based on that other's OPINION. It's just another take.

#292 David Miscavige And Organized Scientology - My New Ebook

Posted by Homeward Bound on 24 November 2009 - 07:10 AM

The final version of the ebook is now online and you can get it at the following links:

the old scribd link of: http://tinyurl.com/LHBvol1

or, the new megaupload link of: http://tinyurl.com/LHBvol1dl

If you should signup for free scribd account & sign in to sit there and read online, you can get rid of the nauseating dianetics ads shown all over the scribd page for non logged in viewers.

Various typos and bits of grammar were corrected and it is laid out better now in book form.

I am also very happy to say that the book now has a cover as you will see. It was made by Jeff Hawkins. A lower resolution copy of the book cover art is as follows:

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I hope that others will find this book helpful in pointing out and eventually ending many of the abuses of David Miscavige and the organized scientology that he controls.

<3 Larry Brennan

#195 Hubbard's Barley Water Formula For Babies Of Stupid Parents

Posted by lamb on 20 September 2009 - 10:35 AM

So, with that knowledge in mind, could future lawsuits be forthcoming against CO$? After all, we were duped into harming our own children!

#183 Organized Scientology Wants To Squash Freedom Of Speech

Posted by Rhythm on 14 September 2009 - 04:47 PM

Here is what the Office of Special Affairs nazis want the Australian government to enforce:
"Recommendation 1: The implementation of Criminal and Civil Restrictions on Religious Vilification. Recommendation 2: Restriction on Anonymity on acts of Religious Vilification: 2.1 Websites created with primary purpose of inciting religious vilification shall be removed or their access to the Australian public restricted. 2.2 Creators of websites whose primary purpose is the incitement of religious vilification shall be prevented from concealing their identity. Recommendation 3: Restriction on Religious Misinformation and Misrepresentation known or reasonably known to be untruthful in the Media. Recommendation 4: Include a form of Bill or Charter of Rights into the Australian Constitution, which prevents the Commonwealth from making any law, which 'directly, indirectly or incidentally' prohibits the free exercise of religion to the extent of such prohibition."

Definition: Vilify, defame, speak evil of.
In other words, any critical websites and the creators of those websites in Australia would be subject to civil and criminal penalties, including removal of those websites. Any critical websites outside of Australia would be subject to filtering.

I have a better proposal: Enforce criminal and civil restrictions on racketeering businesses engaging in fraud under the guise of religion. Businesses that destroy families, commit criminal acts, and violate human rights.
The scientology crime syndicate needs to go down.

#174 Ias: Some Gov't Registration Data

Posted by AnonyMary on 11 September 2009 - 08:40 PM

The IAS goes under different names depending upon the agency or location; In CA, the name is IAS Administrations, Inc. The IRS pub 78 lists it as " US I. A. S. Members Trust in Los Angeles CA USA " Currently it's charitable registry is pending with the state of CA. Hopefully they are being audited. lol You can see that and other info on the IAS entities, below.


xenu-directory.net has data on the IAS as "Foundation International Membership Services Administrations, Inc."

"Foundation International Membership Services Administrations, Inc."
IRS pub 78 " US I. A. S. Members Trust Los Angeles CA USA -- A public charity with a 50% deductibility limitation.
US I. A. S. Members Trust not listed at CA AJ http://ag.ca.gov/cha...s/statutes.php
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#17 Yay The Feeezone!

Posted by Rhythm on 29 July 2009 - 04:33 PM

After I left the subject of scientology, I realized that there are pieces of scientology technology that are helpful, but the system of that tech is designed to mentally trap those who get involved with it. I will say that I am not aware of a more effective and efficient method of brainwashing than scientology.

#169 Personal Security And Anonymization

Posted by Rhythm on 08 September 2009 - 02:47 PM

"87 percent of all Americans could be uniquely identified using only three bits of information: ZIP code, birthdate, and sex."
"If that doesn't sound scary, just think about your own secrets, large and small—those films you watched, those items you searched for, those pills you took, those forum posts you made. The power of reidentifiation brings them closer to public exposure every day."

#141 Omerta - Coerced Silence

Posted by Rhythm on 23 August 2009 - 08:05 PM

Omerta is a word in the Sicilian dialect of Italian that means, "the categorical prohibition of cooperation with state authorities or reliance on its services, even when one has been victim of a crime." The practice of Omerta happens to be used in organized scientology. Recently, we have witnessed retaliative libel and harassment, in the form of a bulk mailed magazine, against former scientology staff members who gave statements to the St. Petersburg Times about numerous instances of assault and battery from corporate head David Miscavige. While Miscavige may have been motivated by a tenet of scientology, "Never fear to hurt another in a just cause", the coerced silence of witnesses who want to remain scientologists is demanded in Hubbard's list of "suppressive acts" such as: "Public disavowal of scientology or scientologists in good standing with scientology organizations", "Public statements against scientology or scientologists but not to committees of evidence duly convened", "Reporting or threatening to report scientology or scientologists to civil authorities in an effort to suppress scientology or scientologists from practicing or receiving standard scientology", "Writing anti-scientology letters to the press or giving anti-scientology or anti-scientologist data to the press", "Delivering up the person of a scientologist without justifiable defense or lawful protest to the demands of civil or criminal law."
The soldiers employed by organized scientology followed up the St. Petersburg Times article with coerced and falsified affidavits in a feeble, criminal attempt to mop up their cult Capo's past infliction of cuts and bruises.

The "high crimes" quoted here from Hubbard fall under the definition of Omerta. This being the case, is organized scientology nothing more than a criminal enterprise, similar to the Mafia?

#12 Yay The Feeezone!

Posted by Lionheart on 29 July 2009 - 05:04 AM

A beginners guide to the FreeZone and being an ex-Scientologist

I think the FreeZone acts for some as a staging post during one's journey from Scientologist to Ex-Scientologist.

I have six personal friends who did services with the Freezone or an Independent group after leaving the CofS. They all became inactive after a while and ceased taking services in either the FZ or the Indie movement.

Usually when one leaves the CofS one still belives or hopes that there is some validity in the "tech".

If so, I think the Independent movement, as a whole, provides an opportunity to test the tech in a more open-minded way than the CofS allows.

It is important to differentiate between the so-called FreeZone and the Independent systems/groups.


The FreeZone will tell you they are a group of separate practitioners of scientology with varying adherence to LRH tech. So actually one cannot say "the Freezone is great", because the freezoners themselves will tell you there is no single thing called the FZ. So all one can say is this version or that version of the FZ is "great", "poor", etc. Freezoners do all appear to call themselves scientologists, but their versions of scientology differ one to the other.

Generally most FZ practitioners still adhere to Ron's space opera OT levels type of approach, although I'm not sure how open they are about this. Some FZ groups also adhere to the expanded beliefs of Capt Bill Robertson who coined the term "FreeZone" to describe Earth as a protected zone in his expanded version of Ron's inter-galactic plot.

When approaching a FZer with the idea of taking services, I would think it a good idea to ask:
  • Do they only apply processing from the lower, non-confidential techniques of Ron's scientology?
  • Do they also deliver Ron's confidential OT levels and if so, do they stick to Ron's versions or adapt them?
  • Do they also deliver expanded confidential levels beyond Ron's levels and if so, who were they developed by?

That way you will be better informed as to which version of the FreeZone you are entering before you enter it.


Independent practitioners do not claim that they are applying scientology and do not call themselves scientologists. Generally they have developed techniques from a scientology tech base, but their techniques are different enough from "standard" scientology techniques to no longer fit the description of scientology.

Therefore one Indie group to another are drastically different from each other and from scientology as regards the techniques and objectives of their technology. One could perhaps say that the only thing they hold in common with each other and with scientology is that they use the "processing" model in their approach to helping clients. Indie groups tend to have websites and info that describe their approach so it is perhaps easier to get a handle on what they belive and practice than it is to do so with FZer movements who, even if they have a website, tend to have the scn trait of being coy about their core beliefs.

Having said that, some Indie groups also have confidential levels or procedures, a hangover from the scn idea of whether the person is "set-up" to recieve the confidential data. Some Indie groups have no confidential levels.

My advice is ask them if they do have confidential levels and if so, get them to give as much indication as possible as to the nature of their confidential beliefs/practices.


Generally, once one is out of the cult control of the CofS, one is free to shop around and ask and judge the group by their responses. This is a freedom we never had when in the CofS! :D

I realise the above are generalisations that individual FZers or Indies may take issue with, but it is an honest attempt at a beginers guide to being an ex-scientologist.

The third option is to drop the idea that the tech has any particular validity, other than a general help flow that is available in many other ways, religions, practices. One can cease to hold onto the hope that there is any particular merit in Ron's work.

This is hard for many new CofS leavers to do, because of the repeated claims of Ron's as per Keeping Scientology Working and similar dogma that he pushed on us.

Rather than holding onto the hope he gave us and looking in the FZ or Independent areas, one can look at the techniques that Ron used to bring us to the mind-set that we had as scientologists. This can be painful but liberating.

Once one understands what Ron did - for me this took a decade or more (pre-internet) - one gets a different perspective on scientology and the "tech". In my experience this results in no desire or interest in non CofS scientology techs and one's cult radar is on full alert if one decides to continue on's spiritual search. In this way the experience and time in the CofS becomes hugely valuable and one has no regrets.

All is well, as it always was and always will be! Good luck in your journey out of the CofS! ;)