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#43 St Petersburg Times - Strength In Numbers

Posted by AnonyMary on 02 August 2009 - 03:14 PM

Four more brave people have come forward speaking out against the organized criminal cult of Scientology and a few others were interviewed without video. Startling revelations from people who have, in some cases been out of the cult for twenty years.


http://www.tampabay....icle1023717.ece

Kudos to those who spoke up!

The video interviews in this series are very good to watch:

http://www.tampabay....t/corrias.shtml

http://www.tampabay....ject/hall.shtml

http://www.tampabay....t/hawkins.shtml

http://www.tampabay..../morehead.shtml

here's a link to the first series:
http://www.tampabay....ect/index.shtml

Mary McConnell


#290 David Miscavige And Organized Scientology - My New Ebook

Posted by Homeward Bound on 22 November 2009 - 05:48 PM

I would like to announce the release of my first “ebook”.

The cover of the ebook is not yet ready but I wanted to release it now anyway as it may be of value to important current happenings such as what is going on with Senator Zenophone in Australia.

The ebook, or call it “paper”, can be found at the following link:

http://tinyurl.com/LHBvol1

And, you may soon be able to download it at:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RA2C118J

The work is free of charge and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution License 3.0 http://creativecommo...nses/by/3.0/us/

This means anyone is free to copy, distribute and transmit the work and to adapt the work but you need to attribute what you do back to this original work.

The title of the work is:

“SPEAKING OUT ABOUT ORGANIZED SCIENTOLOGY
- The Collected Works of L. H. Brennan – Volume 1”

It is subtitled:

“The Miscavige Legal Statements: A Study in Perjury, Lies and Misdirection”
Written by Larry Brennan
[Edited and Compiled by Anonymous w/<3]

I would like to give my heartfelt thanks and love to Anonymous for the incredible help in putting this together.

As the name implies, it is based on a series of my works indexed at my blog: larrybren.blogspot.com

It contains first hand information on the subject. My involvement and background within organized scientology is detailed near the end of the ebook in an attempt to show that this information is both first hand and credible (as much of this is going to be denied by David Miscavige and those who speak for him).

We are entering a time now where the abuses of David Miscavige and the organized scientology he controls are being brought into the light and are now being addressed both by governments and civil litigants. To the extent that this information may be of help in exposing and stopping the abuses it is offered freely for their use.

Should any of the readers here wish to get this report to the likes of Senator Zenophone, for example, you have my blessing.

I know this will not be an easy read for many but it is offered here in the hopes that it can be used to help governments, civil litigants, writers and others point out and stop abuses.

Here is to love and to great justice.

Larry Brennan


#151 Literacy Improves Without Study Tech

Posted by Rhythm on 28 August 2009 - 02:04 PM

http://www.wired.com...-09/st_thompson
From a recent study at Stanford University, it seems that literacy has improved without Hubbard's plagiarized and perverted "Study Tech".
What factor has helped these students excel? Scientology's bane. The institution that David Miscavige and his brainwashed entourage said was "run by criminals".
I am referring to the internet, that communications medium which organized scientology regards as an "external influence", "entheta" and "evil". You see, captive scientologists believe that you can only improve your ability to communicate by doing robotic staring and speaking drills or following instructions from a scientology counsellor in an auditing session.
Granted, knowing the definitions of the words you write, read, speak or hear are necessary to be fluent in a language. (What are dictionaries for and why have they been around for hundreds of years?) Didn't Virginia Waddy document that in her 1889 book, Elements of Composition and Rhetoric in chapter 8? The finding that the very act of communicating can improve one's ability to communicate will probably be dismissed by captive scientologists as "psych influenced" or "false data". Nevertheless, it is fact.
Sorry, Ron. Today we will not clap and cheer to your picture. Instead, we applaud the fine research that Andrea Lunsford, professor of writing and rhetoric at Stanford University, is facilitating in the area of student literacy.


#809 U.N. Affirms Internet Freedom as a Basic Right

Posted by Alanzo on 06 July 2012 - 06:54 PM

They also used to pretend that they supported "The Creed of the Church of Scientology".

While they were recruiting you, at least.


#785 Personal Attacks And Vulgarity From The Owner Of Esmb

Posted by Alanzo on 19 June 2012 - 09:20 AM

I'm not saying that we should all just get along (RIP Rodney King), but I am saying that the cult benefits greatly in the rotten fruit of Emma's Jihad.


#776 Why Smart People Are Stupid

Posted by Rhythm on 12 June 2012 - 07:23 PM

http://www.newyorker...as-studies.html


#770 Interview with former scientology executive director Bill Franks

Posted by LFBD Pittsburgh on 10 June 2012 - 11:36 PM

Dear Bill and Tom,

That was your best history interview yet, Tom!


The way Bill explains the story of the Hubbard despatch that admitted people blow due to ARC Break (upset) rather than transgressions, and giving that story the full context, was very good.


The tying in of Margaret Singer's comments and opinions on Scientology/Hubbard's making people completely guilty of their transgressions, using this as the major overriding control processes on the membership, that really is a huge huge point that this interview makes clear.


Excellent interview for that major point.


The Mary Sue op, setting her up, trying to get her to incriminate herself, so as to convince her to take the blame, and she just wasn't cooperating, that is a very important incident to give other parts of that story, I had heard she just wasn't willing to be the fall woman, so that's why Miscavige ordered the surveillance on her, to see if she'd incriminate herself.


The murder of the one MP that Bill knew about for sure, and Bill's mentioning that he'd seen so many other mentions of murders ordered, by chance, and the amount of evidence destroyed, that is truly a dark chapter that deserveres more research, and Bill if you have any ideas of how a researcher would go about at least just digging up the story verbally, since the evidence will obviously by now all have been destroyed, I'd love your thoughts Bill on who today might be asked to confirm, who in the DC GO or US GO or elsewhere, who might know, I guess if Jimmy Mulligan is still alive, he'd be one to know for sure.


Bill, do you think that the Simon Boliver policy, where LRH blatantly says Manuela should have had Santander murdered, and that this was one of Maneula's failings, do you think the GO were operating on that rationale?


To me, it seems obvious now.


But Bill, this interview shows that the fanaticism that existed that made the GO think they could and should murder, is written into the Simon Bolivar PL.


And that level of fanaticism, to do murder, is the level of violence that Miscavige is at least pretending or promoting that he was willing to engage in.


Bill, did you ever speak to anyone like to Starkey, or to other senior people, about any of the murders that occurred on any Cont?


This is the all time best interview, in my opinion, Tom.


This is really hardcore material that shows that serious enemies of Hubbard's, that obviously the GO took Hubbard's Simon Bolivar policy to fanatical literalness, and they did murder at least one MP, per Bill.


Chuck Beatty

chuckbeatty77@aol.com

412-260-1170

Pittsburgh

ex Sea Org, 1975-2003



#726 Interview on the how and why of psychotherapy with Dr. Bruce Wampold

Posted by LFBD Pittsburgh on 04 February 2012 - 05:56 AM

http://exscnforum.com/pubmedia/TheEdgeBWampold1.mp3


Boy Tom, makes me want to go back to college and study psychology. Not to be a practitioner, but just to become more familiar with it all.

As far as thinking "how would this apply" to Scientology, in hindsight, I have several thoughts.

Obviously the "lower grades" of Scientology are some type of psychotherapy, despite Hubbard's denials that "auditing" is NOT psychotherapy.

So, just listening to a college professor discuss what he discusses, minimally gives a Scientologist some ideas as to why "auditing" might be effective.

I've always intuitively thought that the "best auditors" got good results based on their personal nature as people, meaning that the people who were the "Auditors of the Year" type auditors, were just darned good "therapist" type people!

So, even that Scientology's psychotherapy is NOT peer reviewed, in hindsight, since I was in the Sea Org for 27 years, and spent my first 7 years at Flag, intermingling with the FSO staff, coming in contact with the best auditors in the world (I'd say that plenty of field auditors worldwide were just as smooth as the best Flag auditors though) that some of the Class 12s, one or two who I did morning TR drills with, back when daily TR drilling was still required, I found that their ability to "bond" and talk with the patient, was exceptional.

So, as you put this great interview with a research psychotherapist on the Ex Scientology blog here, I take it you wanted us ex Scientologists to consider what this man says, and reflect how it might have something to do with Scientology, and that's the first couple thoughts I had how it relates.

Next, I thought, well, if Scientology's a religion, well it doesn't really have to do "peer review". If just by chance it does provide patient benefit to Scientologists, the patient Scientologists really don't need any peer review, they're happy as is.

I guess though, this man's attitude contrasts though, with the hype language in Scientology. LRH claims his auditing therapy will be successful 100% of the time, when I think in some client/parishioner's cases, they will NOT agree with LRH.

I think the field of psychotherapy has a more tolerant view of their patients who feel NOT assisted by psychotherapy. Scientology treats disgruntled Scientologists even way more extremely than my impression of how psychotherapists would of their disgruntled patients.

In contrast, that a professor even studies the effectiveness of the various psychotherapies, that relationship between university research and the field of psychotherapist practitioners, I see today as way more healthy compared to the arrogance built into the Church of Scientology about its "spiritual therapy/exorcism" psychotherapy practices.

What I tell people who are disgruntled with psychotherapy or psychiatry, is "get another psychotherapist/psychiatrist". Meaning, "switch auditors", just like C/S Series 1, Auditor's Rights, where it says that is the preclear's right to ask for a different auditor.

Interesting that your guest says that the optimism of the therapist effects success rate, to a degree.

I find psychotherapist discussion so much freer, since discussing Scientology therapy/auditing, Hubbard set so many rules about even talking about it, like it's an ethics offense to engage in verbal data, etc.

The more I contrast Scientology/Hubbard theory and rules with the outside world, the more I see the outside world displays tolerance and more careful thinking processes to this area of therapy.

Anyways, thanks Tom.

This is a great interview, and had I the time, maybe when I retire, I'll go back to college just for the joy of learning more.

- Chuck Beatty
ex Sea Org, 1975-2003
Pittsburgh, 412-260-11770
chuckbeatty77@aol.com


#706 Interview with Dr. Arthur Deikman on cults and cult thinking

Posted by LFBD Pittsburgh on 15 January 2012 - 06:07 PM

What an incredible interview Tom.

You really do your guests so much careful homework, just such excellent questions and making the show such an informative piece of work for as short at the shows are.

Really appreciate your great interviews for all these years Tom!

This man's work on cult attitudes, is so important for ex members to hear.

Glad you chose him, and excellent questions and answers!


#629 Interview on effective self change with Dr. James O. Prochaska

Posted by LFBD Pittsburgh on 18 September 2011 - 08:40 PM

Excellent interview, extremely easy to get this psychologist's points. I listened to this show TWICE straight through, really fascinating layout of ideas. Great interview!


#44 Who We Are

Posted by administrator on 02 August 2009 - 04:09 PM

Long answer:
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We want ex-scientologists to recover and we provide a forum to facilitate that activity.
That is who we are.


#4 A Reading List For Recovery

Posted by Rhythm on 25 July 2009 - 12:24 PM

Here are some books that I have found very helpful:

Becoming Attached
by Robert Karen, PhD.

About 440 pages. This book is about attachment theory, which does have a verified, scientific basis in psychology. The author begins the book with the history of psychoanalysis and brings the reader to the initial research in attachment theory, up to modern scientific studies and applications in psychotherapy.

Them and Us: Cult Thinking and the Terrorist Threat
by Arthur J. Deikman, M.D.

About 240 pages, well written with brilliant and compassionate insights into how cults operate. This is the best book on the subject of cults that I am aware of.

Violent Criminal Acts and Actors Revisited
by Lonnie Athens, PhD.

About 160 pages. Athens' writing style is concise. Athens did a great deal of practical research by interviewing perpetrators of violent crime, all of which is verifiable. The source of violent crime is not "engrams" or "evil purposes".

Virus of the Mind
by Richard Brodie

About 230 pages. Written in a colloquial style for the layman. This book is an introduction to Memetic Psychology and is a cutting edge perspective on a major factor in the behavior of complex life forms. A Meme is a basic cultural idea that is transmitted from one individual to another. The biological analogue of the meme is the gene. The meme construct aligns a great deal of data on thought, emotion and behavior. I would state that memetic psychology obsoletes anything scientology ever had to offer.


#33 How The Freezone Is Like Wow Free Server

Posted by revenimus on 01 August 2009 - 07:26 AM

I agree, the Freezone doesn't even have the standard technology they "claim" they do. I have heard all sorts of fantastical claims by Freezoners, largely people like Terril Park who claim the FZ has all the upper-level materials. Completely non-sensical if you ask me. One thing I know the Freezone doesn't have is the Golden Age of Knowledge changes to the e-meter drills/instructions. The original documentation for the e-meter as well as a LOT of processes were never written by LRH but were compiled by others FOR him or from his lectures. The changes to the metering drills and things like that with GAK was the one valid thing they DID change that wasn't squirrel and the Freezone DOESNT HAVE IT.


#289 Aaron Saxton's Video Interviews

Posted by Rhythm on 22 November 2009 - 02:27 PM

http://www.youtube.com/aaronsaxton1


#192 Hubbard's Barley Water Formula For Babies Of Stupid Parents

Posted by add1x on 19 September 2009 - 10:27 AM

Hubbard introduced his infamous baby food recipe in The Auditor number 6 in an article ironically called "Healthy Babies".
Here are some article excerpts:
"Breast feeding babies may have a nostalgic background, particularly to a Freudian oriented medico, but real breast milk again is usually a poor ration"
Where is the published research study, Ron, that physicians who recommend breast feeding subscribe to Freud's doctrines? And where is the published research with a nutritional analysis of breast milk demonstrating that it is usually a poor ration? No facts? Flunk, Ron.

"Modern mothers smoke and sometimes drink. Smoking makes the milk very musty."
Which modern mothers smoke? Verifiable statistics please. And Ron, how would you know that smoking makes breast milk musty if you did not sample it yourself? How many lactating women did you taste test?

"Anyway, a nervous modern mother just can't deliver the right ration."
Published statistics please, Ron. Don't have any? You go to retread!

"The largest cause of upset in a baby's early life is just rations. As an old hand at this, I have straightened out more babies who were cross, not sleeping, getting sick and all, than it was easy to keep a record of."
No published research studies to demonstrate this, Ron? And you didn't keep any records of your own? Well, Old Hand Ron, psychologists John Bowlby and Mary Ainsworth did real scientific research which demonstrates otherwise: http://www.psycholog...nge_origins.pdf
It seems that insecure emotional attachment to the parents is the major factor. You are assigned to lower conditions, Ron.

"And (3) I recalled all my dietary and endocrine studies that I studied in those places the reporters have now agreed I never attended."
Like Sequoia University?

"Actually I recalled further than that. Roman troops marched on barley."
Great "whole track recall" Ron! But, historical records indicate otherwise. It seems the Roman Legion mostly consumed foods other than barley.
http://www.roman-emp.../army/army.html
http://romanmilitary.net/people/food
http://resourcesforh..._in_Britain.htm

"Barley is the highest protein cereal."
Thanks for authoritative advice, Ron, but scientific research demonstrates otherwise, again:
http://www.soilandhe...n/030210ch5.htm

Of all the cereal grains, oats ranks highest in protein and runs neck and neck with wheat as the all-around most nutritive cereal grain. The 1950 USDA handbook on grains rates oats at 14.5 percent protein, while whole wheat runs second with 13.4 percent. These figures are somewhat outdated now, especially in regard to oats. The average of 287 varieties selected from the World Oat Collection recently averaged 17 percent in protein content. More significantly, two new varieties, DAL from Wisconsin and OTEE from Illinois, contain over two percent more protein than that average, and can go as high as 22 percent on a dry basis. That could make oats almost competitive with soybeans in protein (soybeans contain about 35 percent protein but yield less per acre than oats) and most plant scientists express belief in a bright future for oats as human food.
Part of their reasoning is based on the character as well as the quality of oat protein. It has a bland taste, is soluble under acidic conditions, is stable in emulsions with water and fat, and holds moisture, thus making it an ideal protein to supplement other foods. At the USDA laboratory in Peoria, Illinois, researchers are using oat protein to make nutritious refreshment beverages, meat extenders, and high-protein baked goods.

"This formula is the nearest approach to human milk that can be assembled easily. It is an old Roman formula, no less, from maybe 2,200 years ago."
Oh, ya, Ron? It seems that there is no historical record of the barley water, homogenized milk, corn syrup formula. In fact, historical records indicate that Roman women either breast fed or employed wet nurses who did:
http://goliath.ecnex...man-empire.html
And corn syrup was invented around 1882:
http://www.corn.org/...ornrefining.htm

So, Ron, you nuclear physicist you, it seems you invented your baby food recipe out of your own delusions and conman lies. Thanks. Now we know.


Reading this crap soooo many years later - I could immediately see some of the contradictions - such as the use/invention of cornsyrup being way too late on the chain.

It still amazes me what wasn't seen (by self) and still isn't seen and is explained away so easily by scientologists. I didn't even see the "outpoint" of corn syrup then, and if I had I am sure would have explained it away by something along the lines of "well, we call it corn syrup now, but it was same thing just not called that..."

Thankfully, my children were breastfed by a rebel-scientology mother.


#180 Ron The Racist

Posted by revenimus on 12 September 2009 - 10:28 AM

I have no idea what this is from, but I'd love to know. I know I have NEVER seen this before but it's authentic so far as I can tell.

I give you, portrait of a negro hiding in a coal cellar at midnight.




#152 Literacy Improves Without Study Tech

Posted by AnonyMary on 30 August 2009 - 12:54 PM

Good to read this! For the benefit of those who do not know the background on Virginia Waddy:

Arnie Lerma of Lermanet.com researched and posted his findings that Virginia Waddy was, in fact, the originator of what scientologists former and current have come to know as L Ron Hubbard's STUDY TECH.

Virginia Waddy (1850-1911) was an educator and author born in the United States of America. She was a teacher of Rhetoric at Richmond High School in Richmond, Virginia. In 1889, she published the 416 page, sixteen chapter book titled Elements of Composition and Rhetoric with Copious Exercises in Both Criticism and Construction.
http://en.wikipedia..../Virginia_Waddy

reference: "Where Study Tech Originated". Where Study Tech Originated. Virginia Waddy / Lermanet.
http://www.lermanet....exit/studytech/
http://en.wikipedia....ied_Scholastics

In 1889, Virginia Waddy published the 416 page, sixteen chapter book titled Elements of Composition and Rhetoric with Copious Exercises in Both Criticism and Construction. Here are some pages from the book that document where Scientology's Study Tech really originated from:

Index of /exit/studytech
Parent Directory
REWARD-randy-payne.doc
demo-kit.txt
forcedbreakin.txt
virginiawaddy-titlepage.jpg
virginiawaddy01.jpg
virginiawaddy02.jpg
virginiawaddy03.jpg
virginiawaddy04.jpg
virginiawaddy05.jpg
http://www.lermanet....exit/studytech/

The sources that L Ron Hubbard stole from to create Scientology
http://www.lermanet.com/sources.htm


#15 Keeping Scientology Working And Otiii

Posted by revenimus on 29 July 2009 - 01:20 PM

I too did OT-III many years ago. I always found that the point of the repetitive exercises contained on OT-III was to condition you to believe that Body Thetans exist and are the source of your aberrations. I don't think there was much more to it than to condition you to believe something you should deal with for many many years to come.


#139 What Is A Scientologist?

Posted by Rhythm on 22 August 2009 - 12:45 PM

Anyone joining organized scientology becomes a debtor.
At the very least, you are indoctrinated that you owe an eternal debt to L. Ron Hubbard, the narcissistic founder of the scientology crime syndicate.
The notion is that LRH "salvaged" you and nobody else could really have helped you. Hubbard's motives were purely altruistic and if it wasn't for Ron, you would be a "burned out cinder", PTS, the effect of the environment and your "bank".
If you pursue "the Bridge", you will probably have to borrow hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay for books, recordings, auditing, training and the membership statuses from the various front groups like the IAS, CCHR, Way to Happiness Foundation, etc. You will be harassed by letters, emails, phonecalls or in person so that registrars (conman shills) can get their statistics up by bilking you.
If you join staff at an organization and leave before your "contract" is expired, you can be assessed a "freeloaders bill" for thousands, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Asking for a refund or repayment is a major taboo in scientology. Just asking is considered a "suppressive act". Being offered a refund by a staff member and accepting is a suppressive act. This implies that those running the scientology congame want it to continue with impunity despite lack of delivery or promised results.
Organized scientology has a poor record at timely payment of invoices. Do a public records search for attempted mediations, liens and lawsuits to verify this. To collect, you will usually have to employ a civil process. Organized scientology is very dishonorable. They want money, but don't want to pay much out.

Bear in mind that a debtor can be lawfully deprived of their rights. Organized scientology regularly exploits that principle on its members.
Here's a better idea: Organized scientology is the debtor and should be liquidated to satisfy all claims.


#173 Three Occupations Disliked By Organized Scientology

Posted by AnonyMary on 11 September 2009 - 08:05 PM

Freedom magazine is one of organized scientology's public relations sphincters. The issue from early August 2009 sent gratuitously to many residents of Pinellas County, Florida features David Miscavige's image on the cover.
On page 78, the official position of organized scientology is that people in the following occupations are not credible: "repossessed furniture dealers, night janitors," and "car salesmen". Also included are "self-proclaimed creators of the universe" which would correspond to the definition of God. So, according to organized scientology, God is not credible. Fair enough. Is David Miscavige more credible than God?


Hubbard was a jealous man. That is why he hated the idea of there being a real God . That is why he deemed Jesus Christ to be an implant. He just hated competition when it came to the souls of man.

Do you think the car salesman thing was aimed at Mike Rinder? lol :)