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#43 St Petersburg Times - Strength In Numbers

Posted by AnonyMary on 02 August 2009 - 03:14 PM

Four more brave people have come forward speaking out against the organized criminal cult of Scientology and a few others were interviewed without video. Startling revelations from people who have, in some cases been out of the cult for twenty years.


http://www.tampabay....icle1023717.ece

Kudos to those who spoke up!

The video interviews in this series are very good to watch:

http://www.tampabay....t/corrias.shtml

http://www.tampabay....ject/hall.shtml

http://www.tampabay....t/hawkins.shtml

http://www.tampabay..../morehead.shtml

here's a link to the first series:
http://www.tampabay....ect/index.shtml

Mary McConnell


#290 David Miscavige And Organized Scientology - My New Ebook

Posted by Homeward Bound on 22 November 2009 - 05:48 PM

I would like to announce the release of my first “ebook”.

The cover of the ebook is not yet ready but I wanted to release it now anyway as it may be of value to important current happenings such as what is going on with Senator Zenophone in Australia.

The ebook, or call it “paper”, can be found at the following link:

http://tinyurl.com/LHBvol1

And, you may soon be able to download it at:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RA2C118J

The work is free of charge and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution License 3.0 http://creativecommo...nses/by/3.0/us/

This means anyone is free to copy, distribute and transmit the work and to adapt the work but you need to attribute what you do back to this original work.

The title of the work is:

“SPEAKING OUT ABOUT ORGANIZED SCIENTOLOGY
- The Collected Works of L. H. Brennan – Volume 1”

It is subtitled:

“The Miscavige Legal Statements: A Study in Perjury, Lies and Misdirection”
Written by Larry Brennan
[Edited and Compiled by Anonymous w/<3]

I would like to give my heartfelt thanks and love to Anonymous for the incredible help in putting this together.

As the name implies, it is based on a series of my works indexed at my blog: larrybren.blogspot.com

It contains first hand information on the subject. My involvement and background within organized scientology is detailed near the end of the ebook in an attempt to show that this information is both first hand and credible (as much of this is going to be denied by David Miscavige and those who speak for him).

We are entering a time now where the abuses of David Miscavige and the organized scientology he controls are being brought into the light and are now being addressed both by governments and civil litigants. To the extent that this information may be of help in exposing and stopping the abuses it is offered freely for their use.

Should any of the readers here wish to get this report to the likes of Senator Zenophone, for example, you have my blessing.

I know this will not be an easy read for many but it is offered here in the hopes that it can be used to help governments, civil litigants, writers and others point out and stop abuses.

Here is to love and to great justice.

Larry Brennan


#151 Literacy Improves Without Study Tech

Posted by Rhythm on 28 August 2009 - 02:04 PM

http://www.wired.com...-09/st_thompson
From a recent study at Stanford University, it seems that literacy has improved without Hubbard's plagiarized and perverted "Study Tech".
What factor has helped these students excel? Scientology's bane. The institution that David Miscavige and his brainwashed entourage said was "run by criminals".
I am referring to the internet, that communications medium which organized scientology regards as an "external influence", "entheta" and "evil". You see, captive scientologists believe that you can only improve your ability to communicate by doing robotic staring and speaking drills or following instructions from a scientology counsellor in an auditing session.
Granted, knowing the definitions of the words you write, read, speak or hear are necessary to be fluent in a language. (What are dictionaries for and why have they been around for hundreds of years?) Didn't Virginia Waddy document that in her 1889 book, Elements of Composition and Rhetoric in chapter 8? The finding that the very act of communicating can improve one's ability to communicate will probably be dismissed by captive scientologists as "psych influenced" or "false data". Nevertheless, it is fact.
Sorry, Ron. Today we will not clap and cheer to your picture. Instead, we applaud the fine research that Andrea Lunsford, professor of writing and rhetoric at Stanford University, is facilitating in the area of student literacy.


#941 Sheldon Solomon on Ernest Becker, Religious Belief and Self-Esteem

Posted by Alanzo on 15 January 2014 - 09:00 AM

This is an excellent 1 hour lecture on the work of Ernest Becker, an anthropologist who wrote about the anxiety of death in human beings across all cultures, and how that anxiety expresses itself in religious belief, violence, and the creation of culture itself.

 

Solomon then describes some of the scientific testing he has done of Becker's ideas, and some solutions he is working on to address these deep-seated issues in human beings.

 

There are technical difficulties in the first 2 minutes. Start two minutes in and give it 10 minutes.

 

You'll be hooked.

 

This is one of the most profound and enlightening lectures I have ever heard.

 




#885 Interview on research of cognition versus empathy

Posted by LFBD Pittsburgh on 30 March 2013 - 01:27 PM

What an informative excellent interview Tom!

I'm amazed at your questions, and so are your guests, who get provoked into giving such excellent informative answers.

I've always loved your interviewing Tom.

This interview deserves to be re listened to about 4 times, there are so much interesting material here..

Thanks Tom!

Chuck Beatty
in Pittsburgh


#86 How The Freezone Is Like Wow Free Server

Posted by Rhythm on 06 August 2009 - 09:22 PM

Just found this on WWP:
"The idea that Scientology, practiced outside the Co$ is somehow different,
and less toxic, than that practiced inside the "church" requires the same
abysmal logic that would presume that crack cocaine smoked *outside* the
crack house is less addictive and toxic and somehow doesn't lead to the same
end result."


#809 U.N. Affirms Internet Freedom as a Basic Right

Posted by Alanzo on 06 July 2012 - 06:54 PM

They also used to pretend that they supported "The Creed of the Church of Scientology".

While they were recruiting you, at least.


#773 Interview with former scientology executive director Bill Franks

Posted by LFBD Pittsburgh on 11 June 2012 - 08:25 AM

Tom,

I lament there is not some good discussion of your interviewing.

But, someday, some researchers will scutinize it, since your interviewing is unique in Scientology critics history.

Mark Bunker doesn't know even how to ask the questions you ask. Mark's done unprecedented, but more like normal media limited understanding coverage.

The interviewing you do digs up details that I hope to hell some sociologists see the value of the details you illicit from these ex senior members, like Bill.

The personal relationship with Mary Sue, the whole issue of her being "thrown under the bus", and that LRH ordered the surveillance, or his orders justified the tactics used to try to incriminate her, and make her feel guilty enough to be willing to accept FULL responsibility.

what total irony!

I doubt Lawrence Wright will see the point, nor Mark Bunker, nor even Childs and Tobin, nor any new religion scholar, since none of them know the Simon Bolivar policy's influence on Mary Sue's self adopted roll.

Bottom line, the romantic Bolivar did to some degree discard Manuela, but she at least was independent enough.

I so wish we could have had a educated enough historian/journalist/writer understand Mary Sue's mindset, as a woman, married to L. Ron Hubbard, and her final life's ending.

Mary Sue, to use Lawrence Wright's term for how he writes his books (self admitted and freely explained in his talks to the public when he tells how he writes his book), is that Mary Sue would have ultimately been about the best case scenario "mule" for the Scientology story. "Mules" are the people Larry Wright uses to carry the narrative of his stories.

I hung out with Roger Weller this weekend Tom, and I think the biggest regret I have is that we (outside media, historians, scholars) didn't have the mindset to reach Mary Sue, and befriend her, and get her talking frankly about her thoughts.

Tom, for the future, Leslie Potter and Neville Potter were Mary Sue's "handlers" her final years, plus Ginny Hof and Hett Sanders.

If you ever want to get some excellent new groundbreaking interviews, Tom, or Lawrence Wright if you want to get some GOOD new history, then talk and befriend and get some history out of the Potters, Hof and Sanders!!!!

Tom you're the best interviewer for history, bar none, you know the Scientology beat!

Can't thankyou enough Tom!

Chuck Beatty
call after 9pm if you have important history you want to share on Marty Sue's final end, and her Manuela role, anyone with firsthand knowledge of what she personally felt and said in her final years before she died!
412-260-1170 east coast time zone
chuckbeatty77@aol.com


#769 Interview with former scientology executive director Bill Franks

Posted by AnonyMary on 08 June 2012 - 06:05 PM


Terrific interview and what a coup! Thanks so much.

I thought there was going to be a part II, as Denise Brennan posted in several forums :

"This week Tom Smith interviews a high level defector from the
scientology organization. Among the topics discussed are Fair Game
orders issued against elected officials of a major Western government.
Take a visit to scientology's version of the Twilight Zone. Listen to
The Edge this Friday, 8 June 2012 and Sunday 10 June 2012 from 2 - 3
p.m. eastern U.S. time on http://www.hawkradio.com or
http://theedgewithtomsmith.com As always, a podcast will be available
after broadcast."

https://whyweprotest...efector.103059/

I was hoping to hear more about his time on the RPF and the run-around-a pole incident. I heard he lost teeth because of this.

Will there be a part II? Or do you have another guest planned for Sunday?

~Mary McConnell


#691 Dauntless, Defiant, and Resolute

Posted by administrator on 12 December 2011 - 12:27 AM

Don't be downstat. Get your ethics in. Feel free to post here.


#627 Interview on effective self change with Dr. James O. Prochaska

Posted by Rhythm on 16 September 2011 - 02:55 PM




#528 Interview on the sea org External Influences Course

Posted by Rhythm on 25 February 2011 - 02:28 PM




#44 Who We Are

Posted by administrator on 02 August 2009 - 04:09 PM

Long answer:
It is our right to manage our identities as we see fit and we exercise that right.
We are concerned about the privacy of members of this forum. To make matters clear about the information you provide to register: The only information we get is an email address and an IP address. If you have strong security concerns, then register with a special purpose webmail address through a proxy server. One of the rules anyone who registers needs to agree to is to never use their real last name in their login or display name. We don't want your personal information by default. If you want to provide your real identity in the content of your posts, that is your business.
We want ex-scientologists to recover and we provide a forum to facilitate that activity.
That is who we are.


#33 How The Freezone Is Like Wow Free Server

Posted by revenimus on 01 August 2009 - 07:26 AM

I agree, the Freezone doesn't even have the standard technology they "claim" they do. I have heard all sorts of fantastical claims by Freezoners, largely people like Terril Park who claim the FZ has all the upper-level materials. Completely non-sensical if you ask me. One thing I know the Freezone doesn't have is the Golden Age of Knowledge changes to the e-meter drills/instructions. The original documentation for the e-meter as well as a LOT of processes were never written by LRH but were compiled by others FOR him or from his lectures. The changes to the metering drills and things like that with GAK was the one valid thing they DID change that wasn't squirrel and the Freezone DOESNT HAVE IT.


#295 Forum On Scientology In Hamburg, 12.4.09

Posted by Homeward Bound on 26 November 2009 - 09:00 PM

As I have not seen this listed here earlier, I am taking this opportunity to let you know of a forum about scientology to be held in Hamburg, Germany on December 4, 2009 to be hosted by the Office for Domestic Affairs of the Free and Hanseatic City of Hamburg - Working Group Scientology.

The forum will enlighten the attendees of how organized scientology deals with external and external criticism.

While I will not be at this event I am pleased to say that the three speakers will be Ursula Caberta, Graham Berry and Gerry Armstrong, all people who I greatly admire and consider friends as well as courageous fighters who have long labored to expose and, hopefully some day, end the abuses rampant within organized scientology.

Here is a copy of the invitation:

(NB: I have no clue how to show you this on the actual letterhead used for the invitation so am just including the body of the letter):

The Office for Domestic Affairs of the Free and Hanseatic City of Hamburg
Working Group Scientology


invites you to an information session followed by a discussion:


HOW THE SCIENTOLOGY ORGANISATION DEALS WITH EXTERNAL AND INTERNAL CRITICISM


on Friday, 4th December 2009 at Rathaus Altona – Altona Town Hall
Kollegiensaal, Platz der Republik 1
D-22765 Hamburg


Start: 1.30 p.m.

Introduction: Ursula Caberta

Speaker: Graham Berry
How the Scientology Organisation deals with external criticism, illustrated by the example of the Anonymous Movement in the USA

Speaker: Gary Armstrong
How the Scientology Organisation deals with internal criticism (the so-called Scientology ethics) and with those leaving the Organisation

Statements made by representatives of the Anonymous Movement, followed by discussion


4 p.m. – Workshops

End of event: 5 p.m.


To attend this event you will need to notify us by 03.12.2009. (OK we are way late for this but if you want to attend I suggest that you still contact the working group as listed below) Please send confirmation to:
Office for Domestic Affairs, Working Group Scientology, tel. 0049 (0)40 428866444, fax 0049 (0)40 428866445, e-mail: fhhags@t-online.de or by post to Behörde für Inneres, AGS, Admiralitätsstrasse 54, 20459 Hamburg
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you would like further information.


Saturday, 5th December 2009

EUROPEAN DEMONSTRATION BY THE ANONYMOUS MOVEMENT IN HAMBURG


#289 Aaron Saxton's Video Interviews

Posted by Rhythm on 22 November 2009 - 02:27 PM

http://www.youtube.com/aaronsaxton1


#192 Hubbard's Barley Water Formula For Babies Of Stupid Parents

Posted by add1x on 19 September 2009 - 10:27 AM

Hubbard introduced his infamous baby food recipe in The Auditor number 6 in an article ironically called "Healthy Babies".
Here are some article excerpts:
"Breast feeding babies may have a nostalgic background, particularly to a Freudian oriented medico, but real breast milk again is usually a poor ration"
Where is the published research study, Ron, that physicians who recommend breast feeding subscribe to Freud's doctrines? And where is the published research with a nutritional analysis of breast milk demonstrating that it is usually a poor ration? No facts? Flunk, Ron.

"Modern mothers smoke and sometimes drink. Smoking makes the milk very musty."
Which modern mothers smoke? Verifiable statistics please. And Ron, how would you know that smoking makes breast milk musty if you did not sample it yourself? How many lactating women did you taste test?

"Anyway, a nervous modern mother just can't deliver the right ration."
Published statistics please, Ron. Don't have any? You go to retread!

"The largest cause of upset in a baby's early life is just rations. As an old hand at this, I have straightened out more babies who were cross, not sleeping, getting sick and all, than it was easy to keep a record of."
No published research studies to demonstrate this, Ron? And you didn't keep any records of your own? Well, Old Hand Ron, psychologists John Bowlby and Mary Ainsworth did real scientific research which demonstrates otherwise: http://www.psycholog...nge_origins.pdf
It seems that insecure emotional attachment to the parents is the major factor. You are assigned to lower conditions, Ron.

"And (3) I recalled all my dietary and endocrine studies that I studied in those places the reporters have now agreed I never attended."
Like Sequoia University?

"Actually I recalled further than that. Roman troops marched on barley."
Great "whole track recall" Ron! But, historical records indicate otherwise. It seems the Roman Legion mostly consumed foods other than barley.
http://www.roman-emp.../army/army.html
http://romanmilitary.net/people/food
http://resourcesforh..._in_Britain.htm

"Barley is the highest protein cereal."
Thanks for authoritative advice, Ron, but scientific research demonstrates otherwise, again:
http://www.soilandhe...n/030210ch5.htm

Of all the cereal grains, oats ranks highest in protein and runs neck and neck with wheat as the all-around most nutritive cereal grain. The 1950 USDA handbook on grains rates oats at 14.5 percent protein, while whole wheat runs second with 13.4 percent. These figures are somewhat outdated now, especially in regard to oats. The average of 287 varieties selected from the World Oat Collection recently averaged 17 percent in protein content. More significantly, two new varieties, DAL from Wisconsin and OTEE from Illinois, contain over two percent more protein than that average, and can go as high as 22 percent on a dry basis. That could make oats almost competitive with soybeans in protein (soybeans contain about 35 percent protein but yield less per acre than oats) and most plant scientists express belief in a bright future for oats as human food.
Part of their reasoning is based on the character as well as the quality of oat protein. It has a bland taste, is soluble under acidic conditions, is stable in emulsions with water and fat, and holds moisture, thus making it an ideal protein to supplement other foods. At the USDA laboratory in Peoria, Illinois, researchers are using oat protein to make nutritious refreshment beverages, meat extenders, and high-protein baked goods.

"This formula is the nearest approach to human milk that can be assembled easily. It is an old Roman formula, no less, from maybe 2,200 years ago."
Oh, ya, Ron? It seems that there is no historical record of the barley water, homogenized milk, corn syrup formula. In fact, historical records indicate that Roman women either breast fed or employed wet nurses who did:
http://goliath.ecnex...man-empire.html
And corn syrup was invented around 1882:
http://www.corn.org/...ornrefining.htm

So, Ron, you nuclear physicist you, it seems you invented your baby food recipe out of your own delusions and conman lies. Thanks. Now we know.


Reading this crap soooo many years later - I could immediately see some of the contradictions - such as the use/invention of cornsyrup being way too late on the chain.

It still amazes me what wasn't seen (by self) and still isn't seen and is explained away so easily by scientologists. I didn't even see the "outpoint" of corn syrup then, and if I had I am sure would have explained it away by something along the lines of "well, we call it corn syrup now, but it was same thing just not called that..."

Thankfully, my children were breastfed by a rebel-scientology mother.


#172 Ron The Racist

Posted by AnonyMary on 11 September 2009 - 07:54 PM

Here are some things to add to the collection here :)
The L. Ron Hubbard, Scientology, Dianetics and Racism ("Scientology Racism") web site is hosted on SolitaryTrees.net.

The site is organized in sections, in somewhat the same manner as a book:

a.Prologue contains preliminary information about the site and its purpose;
b.Background contains information explaining some of Scientology's practices, providing context for the Church's racism;
c.Racism is the "meat" of our site, containing scriptural quotes and other information about the racist aspects of Scientology;
d.Appendix contains supplementary files, like Glossary and Abbreviations;
e.About contains descriptions of our site's features.
Although the primary pages of this site are arranged in a sequence, it is not necessary to read them in order—simply select the page of interest from the navseq to go directly to that page
http://solitarytrees...acism/howto.htm
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Just in case anyone wants to hear Ron the Loon and Racist, visit my fav collection of Operation Clambake present: Hubbard Audio Collection
These are audio files in MP3 , WAV or RealAudio formats. The recording is actually L Ron Hubbard talking!

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BTs | The Christ Game | Dumping | Friends | Frozen | Helicopter | No Christ | The Obscene Dog | Roman Catholicism | Van Allen | Venus | The Casbah | Espinol | Helatrobus Goals | Crowley | Jupiter | God | Inventing God | Yahweh | Calculus | Gamma Rays | God Dynamic | Know | Knowledge | Mars | Prison Planet | Ron the Mathematician | Smoking | Venusian | Blindness | Babies | Crocodile | Negro | Tech80 | Tech88
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http://www.xenu.net/...multimedia.html

Real Media Player audio segment on Negroes:
L. Ron Hubbard talking about how negroes imbue inanimate objects with personality. Therapy Section of Technique 80: Part I, Route to Infinity, 21 May 1952:
"Actually, have you ever noticed how a negro, in particular, down south, where they're pretty close to the soil, personifies MEST? The gate post and the wagon and the whip and anything around there. A hat -- they talk to 'em, you know. "Wassa madda wit you, hat?" [laughter]. They imbue them, with personality."http://www.xenu.net/..._vault/Negro.ra


#144 Xenu -- Scientology's Achilles Heel -- The Silver Bullet

Posted by Rhythm on 26 August 2009 - 01:54 PM

Cornpie,
Read Have you lived before this life, The History of man, and The Creation of Human Ability....
The concept of xenu is right in line with stuff in the basic books of scientology, that are commonly available to anyone.
Xenu is a red herring.
IMO
Alex


More science fiction/wild speculation for profit cloaked as "religion".


#14 Keeping Scientology Working And Otiii

Posted by Lionheart on 29 July 2009 - 12:14 PM

Scientologists, whether they are in the CofS or FreeZone, appear to have one thing in common in that they don't think OTIII is a code-breaking evaluation.

When I left, part of working through my doubts was to make a point of finding out what OTIII was in order to judge if I was missing out on anything valuable.

In those pre-internet days, the only non-church source that I knew of was Kaufman's book "Inside Scientology". So I read it and it struck me immediately that OTIII was a code-breaking evaluation. It was radically different to the more open, less evalautive tech of the lower/public levels. So I concluded I was missing nothing valuable as I certainly wasm't interested in having Ron tell me specifically what was the cause of any case that I may or may not have.

LRH OTIII evaluations
  • Your body has degraded beings, called Body Thetans attached to it.
  • These BTs are the cause of your case at this level.
  • You can detect these BT's by looking for pressure points in and around the body. A pressure point indicates a BT or cluster of BTs as the cause.
  • These BTs are also formed into groups called clusters. You have BTs and clusters of them and they are influencing you.
  • These BTs were degraded by being shipped to earth 75 million years ago by someone called Xenu, who deposited them in volcanoes at specific locations and blew them up. These thetans were then gathered up by electonic ribbons and implanted at either Hawaii or Las Palmas with images and concepts in a sort of movie theatre for 36 days.
  • Your OTIII case (overwhelm) is handled by running these BTs, that are attached to you, through this 75 million year old incident.
  • If that doesn't handle the BTs influence on you, you run the BT through a much earlier incident involving a chariot, a cherub and a sudden flash and snapping noise.
  • This is your only hope and your only chance to handle your case and reverse your dwindling spiral.
  • This data is dangerous and will cause pneumonia and death if contacted before your case is set up to contact it.
  • If correctly set up you can safely navigate this "wall of fire" thanks to the above LRH discoveries/evaluations.
  • This is the explanation for the current state of individuals and society in this sector of the galaxy.
  • You have to run this data exactly as instructed by Ron's directions or else you are doomed for eternity.

These are all things that LRH tells you about OTIII and about what to run. Why would any scientologist not see this as an evaluation as to what to think about their "case"?

If one were publically told lower down the grade chart that a case phenomenon was caused by and resolved as above, one would have no difficulty is seeing it as an evaluation.

For example if we were told on Grade II that every case must be run on an early overt from 50 million years ago of having squeezed an apple so hard that its pips popped out reducing the innocent apple to a pulp. that every case had this overt, that every case had witheld the overt, that every case must run out this O/W on the "cider rundown" in order to be free from the effects of cider, we would have no difficulty in recognising this as a code break evaluation.

Yet OTIII is argued by its advocates as not an evaluation! Huh? One can only assume that a person must be so overwhelmed that he doesn't see the evaluation and suggestion involved in Hubbard's "tech breakthrough"!

But seriously, overwhelm is probably the key to this. A hypnotist knows that he can induce attention fixidity by directing a person's attention on one thing to the exclusion of other things. This trance is a sort of overwhelm that excludes other thoughts, ideas and observations. Once overwhelmed by this attention-fixing trance, the hypnotist can implant ideas and concepts (positive or negative) and determine behaviour patters without the subject realising that they have been told what to think, see or do. They will think the idea or behaviour is self-determined.

Hubbard was an expert hypnotist - according to those who knew him.

Hubbard, through the vehicle of scientology, directed our attention. He repeated certain things over and over (as in the repetion of KSW) until we "knew" scn was the only ever solution to our "case". He let us know throughly that there was a mysterious, dangerous explanation to the current state of civilisation (he even publically evaluated the date as 75 million years ago). He let us know that getting through the "wall of fire" was the only chance of overcoming this and overcoming the overwhelm involved.

He repeatedly directed our attention to these things, and hinted/suggested at the explanation in his posters, lectures, book covers, etc.

In this way he fixed a scientologist's attention on OTIII. He overwhelmed/fixated us with the overwhelming concept of overwhelm.

He made sure we were "suggestible" or "under" his hypnosis with various tests and teasing "wins" that go under the general term of lower level scientology. Many dropped out, because they didn't buy into the evaluations/suggestions presented at lower levels.

This didn't bother LRH because he was sifting out the suggestible subjects, just like a hypnotist does. He only wanted the suggestible, because he only wanted slaves who would do what he wanted. So he wanted those who were less suggestible to leave! PTS/SP declares, ethics cycles, word clearing, success story writing, etc are the techniques he used to sift out those who were less suggestible. "If they are going to quit, let them quit fast" KSW.

So in this way and using repetiton and the carrot of "wins" to encourage deeper belief, he selected his subjects for his ultimate hypnosis. He got his overwhelmed, fixated, suggestible slaves.

If you were found to have "certainty" on the scientology tech, to have qualified for the ultimate secret, the ultimate solution of the OT levels, you were allowed on. Where you were given the ultimate hypnotic suggestion as outlined in the bullet points above. And because you were proven to be a good hypnotic subject, you didn't notice the hypnotist's hypnotic commands, which in this context we are calling "evaluations".

Because you had bought in to the many earlier suggestions and the source-ness of LRH, you found that BT's and incidents and dates, etc would read on the meter, because you had allowed LRH's overwhelm and suggestions/evaluations into yourself.

Similarly you don't notice the "evaluations", just like a hypnotised subject thinks the suggestions are self-determined, you also think the data of OTIII as you see it, is your own. It is "real" and the meter confirms the "reality" of it.

You explain away the cognitive disonance of accepting LRH's data and simultaneously thinking of it as your own, you explain that contradiction away by saying the OTIII evaluations are just guidelines, parables, metaphores. Or you argue that whether the data is true or not, you get "wins" from running it. These are all just justifications for not noticing what Ron did.

The stated EP of OTIII is freedom from overwhelm - the actual EP is overwhelm and unthinking acceptance of Hubbard's commands. One could even argue that the influence of these supposed BTs is replaced on OTIII by Hubbard's influence.

And Ron, the hypnotist, thus fulfilled the ambition of his affirmation "men are your slaves" and he produced his army of Sea Org and "OTs" who replicated his personality so that his personality would live forever and smash its way into history, as per his affirmations.

Is OTIII an evaluation?

Look at the bullet points above and imagine a stage hypnotist saying those things to a member of the audience that he has selected out as suggestible.

This is how and why scientology "works" and how it is kept working - it is all explained by Ron in "Keeping Scientology Working" - we just didn't notice what he was really saying! It was a good stage trick that Ron pulled on us!